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the
empire never ended
the
lost domain interview
[from the year 2000]
After a ten year career spent assiduously avoiding
any kind of success, the invisible empire are no more.
Actually, to be strictly accurate, they've - we've
- gone & changed our name. Because - let's not
mince words here - your writer here's in the band.
And has been from the beginning.... Little did we
think, way back when, that the term “invisible
empire”, innocently filched from a salacious
Panther Burns song - Jumpsuit - would turn out to
be a code phrase for the Klu Klux Klan. Who, luckily,
don't have a Brisbane chapter…
Many years...and many more arguments later, the
name is now the lost domain. Currently working said
domain are original members Simon Ellaby & David
Mac Kinnon (aka Frank & John Henry Calvinist),
Greg Hilleard [also of Strontium Dog/Noose/Tripod/Niel
Armstong Experience/Standing 8 Counts], the mysterious
Mr E [Holy Ghosts/DNE] & Professor Jeffrey Wegener
[Saints/Laughing Clowns & the Birthday Party,
even…] And, as you can guess from that little
list, we're a bad-tempered bunch of old farts, with
strong opinions as to what makes for good music…
"You've gotta ask the questions…"
Bugger
that.
"So
then, Doctor Dave - tell us about the blues…"
A pause
here, for general hilarity at my expense.
So,
why are we doing this, eh?
"Well,
every time we do it, it comes out different. It'd
be a bit wanky to call it evolution, but…"
Hey
- evolution's not wanky!
"Yeah,
if you wank you can't evolve - it's got to be real
sex."
I'll
use that.
"Can
we also say masturbation is for wankers?"
"Point
is...it changes every time. And more so when
someone new comes into the band. It's not like our
music's a fixed thing & people just have a slot
to fit into. What happens each time is the combination
of what each person brings to it."
And
no-one in this band has ever followed instructions.
If they did, we wouldn't have asked them to join…
[brief
discussion as to the nature of disobedience - mercifully
omitted]
"These
things are hard to put into words, but I think one
thing that I like about this band is the way we don't
all sit back so that each person can play some stupid
solo. It's the ensemble that's the thing…”
Well,
that's the tidier end of jazz & blues put in their
place - what about rock - or post-rock - or whatever
the hell they're calling it these days?
"We
do seem to have a tenuous relationship w/a lot of
contempory music around these days that we don't listen
to, or even have any exposure to. We might have some
of the same [older] influences, but there doesn't
seem to be much in common about the way we work."
"What
about the chaos element?"
"That's
the one unifying factor through all the incarnations.
If there's been any real evolution in the band, it's
the chaos that's evolved. More than anything else.
The formal elements really come out of that."
"When
we first started out, one reason we were so full-on
is that we didn't know any other way to get things
to combust. And we used to have things fall apart
on us...really badly. All the time. But now, we've learned
how to push things from almost any starting point…"
As
long as it's an open structure - which is why we don't
play pop songs - trying to work within that model's
like trying to dance in a straitjacket.
"On
that note…the last time we played - first time
w/this lineup - someone from work asked me how we
could write something as fast as the opener…And
- of course - I said that we didn't write it. A lot
of people think that to play something that sounds
complicated, you need to have it all worked out."
Whereas
we just cheat...by finding so-called complicated things
that build themselves naturally - and then use those
as our starting points...
"It's
an interesting point…Is it any less valid because
it's not pre-ordained? Maybe that's the essential
issue that we tend to address in whatever we do."
"Even
when we do a cover, we tend to work with the idea
of the song - and push it to see where it wants to
go w/this band - instead of trying to reproduce something."
That's
because we don't try to fake it. Music's not takeaway
food or something - if'n it doesn't work, then...that's
because we drove ourselves into a dead end - not because
we mucked up something that was designed to be "safe"
& "reliable" in the first place…
"What
we do is like a benevolent dialogue - a resolution
of individual personalities - because...whatever tensions
occur, they're always consumed within the music. The
resolution is in the mutation. And...we can have some bloody
good arguments that just completely eat up the tensions."
"Actually,
it's better than real life.”
Where
else in life can you be the rudest, most full-on bastard
around, for a space - w/no limits as to what you come
out with - and have everyone else go "great solo"?
And...it's a terribly un-alone thing as well, real
music. More so than any other art. Because there's
an abstraction to it...that allows any player to subsume
their own contribution w/in the whole - to identify
w/the process, rather than just w/their own particular contribution.
And that is a terribly utopian thing to find in real
life…
"It's
certainly a great way to spend an evening."
Which, of course, is the point. Once described as
"the Velvet Underground in reverse", the
former invisible empire, now known as the lost domain,
play the Zoo w/Blue Wine & Turnpike on Thursday
3rd February, & join the farewell to Mr Bastard
at the Shamrock on Saturday 12th February. At the
first, we'll be welcoming in the new century with
an entirely fresh set - composed [as usual] of freeform
rock'n'roll, strange storytelling, old gospel &
"blues" - as well as several things that
have no name. For Senor Bastardo, however, it'll be
cheese whizz all the way…
Advance
copies of our latest - and only - CD, "the empire never ended..."[shy
tone] will be available for sale...for those whose tastes run to that
sort of thing.
John Henry Calvinist
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